I think we are misunderstanding each other here. If we are talking about a baby that is 100% asymptomatic, and there is no reason why the baby cannot breast/bottle feed, than the baby should be fed first before IV lines and such are started. I didn't bring that up because that goes without saying. Socrates said that he took the fingerstick, and upon getting the reading, placed a PIV, pushed D50 and started a drip. OBP also said that he does not push D50 in a neonate, which is exactly what I said in my response. I never said anything about the dosing of a drip, all I said was that I doubt he started it himself. He is presenting the idea that the baby needs treatment this instant because he/she is in danger. IF that is the situation, than I don't know how its "wrong advice" to push glucose. He made it out like although the baby is asymptomatic, that he wanted treatment given now, and PO was not an option or a thought in his mind.
I respect Arch, I think he does give sound advice on here. I just don't have any problem with him. If calling someone on their BS (Socrates or anyone else for that matter) is the same as mocking a physician, than so be it. How do we know he is even a physician anyway? Sure doesn't sound like it to me. Besides, others called him out on it just the same as I did. If its OK for everyone but not for me, than that is why I got the idea that Arch was sticking with the MD's even if they were wrong. If I misunderstood, than I apologize.
Nobody who actually works in a hospital setting would believe that, but there are impressionable premeds and med students on here who don't know any better. My #1 concern during this whole thread was not what people thought of me, but was that the people going into or just starting medicine don't pick up bad behaviors such as this. If they are being told that this behavior is OK, than they won't know any better when they get into trouble for it. This type of situation where the nurse outright refuses anything after a discussion to relieve any concerns, almost never happens. No I'm not a physician yet, but everyone in the health care setting is responsible for teaching and guiding the future doctors we work with, and I do whatever I can to help them out and teach them.