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Comments? Thoughts? Some very competitive fields this year (PICU, EM) and the usual non-competitive (endo, ID).
I’m not surprised given recent trends, although I wonder if more fellowship programs/positions (esp in PICU/PEM/PHM) will be created as a result of this year. Do you think virtual interviews play a role at all (i.e. people hogging interviews leading to others not getting enough, or virtual interviewing just being subpar ways to meet applicants in general)?
I expected it to be brutal.. but man. Can’t imagine what it’s like for those who didn’t match, there must be some great pediatricians out there who have to either wait another year or change their career path.
Less competitive for PICU this year compared to last because like 20 new spots opened up from 8 new programs. There won’t be jobs for those new jobs for those spots in 3 years but what does that matter to programs because reasons and cheap labor. But at least they’ll have wasted 18 months on a scholarly activity that will yield nothing. Huzzah.
Comments? Thoughts? Some very competitive fields this year (PICU, EM) and the usual non-competitive (endo, ID).
Less competitive for PICU this year compared to last because like 20 new spots opened up from 8 new programs. There won’t be jobs for those new jobs for those spots in 3 years but what does that matter to programs because reasons and cheap labor. But at least they’ll have wasted 18 months on a scholarly activity that will yield nothing. Huzzah.
I don’t know if this is true for PEM (and it’s not true for PHM… yet) but PICU is generating a lot of fellows for no jobs. I don’t know why, but the field needs to come to a reckoning.
I can't find the article but there was a recent article in some throw away journal (probably because no one wanted to publicize it) but the number of job postings on the PedSCCM.org website was vastly smaller than the number of annual graduating 3rd year fellows. There was also another publication in the same journal that the availability of jobs was directly related to the number of publications (realizing that PICU is not a high publication nor rigorously academic field... ie, the faculty that oversaw fellows did not have the same competitive market when they were in training and had no idea to enhance fellow productivity for future job prospects).Any idea what proportion of PICU grads each year are able to find a PICU job? And is this being addressed at all at the leadership level?
Found the articles...I can't find the article but there was a recent article in some throw away journal (probably because no one wanted to publicize it) but the number of job postings on the PedSCCM.org website was vastly smaller than the number of annual graduating 3rd year fellows. There was also another publication in the same journal that the availability of jobs was directly related to the number of publications (realizing that PICU is not a high publication nor rigorously academic field... ie, the faculty that oversaw fellows did not have the same competitive market when they were in training and had no idea to enhance fellow productivity for future job prospects).
As to your second point... given the above and the fact then from 2020 to 2021, 7 or 8 new programs opened up... the answer is a hilarious "hell no".
Hint: supply is already in excessThe number of advertised opportunities identified was low compared with number of fellows likely to be seeking jobs during same time period. If market demand remains stable, there is risk of excess supply if number of newly fellowship-trained PCCM physicians continues to rise.
Hint: publications = job prospects. Also if the median faculty H index is 3... that's still quite low.Large programs with higher academic metrics train physicians with greater publication success (H index 3 [IQR: 1–7] vs. 2 [IQR: 0–6]; p < 0.001) and greater likelihood of working in large academic centers. These associations may guide prospective trainees as they choose training programs that may foster their career values.
Jeez, looks like unless you’re at a top academic PICU program or pumping out high-impact pubs (which is more feasible at a large academic institution), you’re sorta screwed in the PICU job market.Found the articles...
Employment Opportunities for Pediatric Critical Care Fellowship Trained Physicians in the United States
Thieme E-Books & E-Journalswww.thieme-connect.com
Hint: supply is already low
Employment Opportunities for Pediatric Critical Care Fellowship Trained Physicians in the United States
Thieme E-Books & E-Journalswww.thieme-connect.com
Hint: publications = job prospects. Also if the median faculty H index is 3... that's still quite low.
I agree. But at the same time, it's not really surprising to me as I've been in the game a decade plus and can easily see the writing on the wall. But the people who make programmatic decisions regarding training in the PICU are of the same mindset as the folks that brought you the PHM fellowship mind you.Gotcha, thanks for the reply. That’s terrifying and sad, can’t imagine finishing a fellowship and then not being able to find ANY job in the field
There are more private practice gigs for both NICU and Cards. I can't speak to the specifics, but I would assume based on the higher number of private practice jobs, that the job market is better. How much better? Others could probably answer that on here better than I.Jeez, looks like unless you’re at a top academic PICU program or pumping out high-impact pubs (which is more feasible at a large academic institution), you’re sorta screwed in the PICU job market.
I wonder, are job opportunities better for NICU? Or cards? I considered PICU before, but have been slowly leaning more towards NICU or cards based on this.
I would think there should be cause for concern when a company on Wall Street owns 40+% of “private practice” NICU jobsThere are more private practice gigs for both NICU and Cards. I can't speak to the specifics, but I would assume based on the higher number of private practice jobs, that the job market is better. How much better? Others could probably answer that on here better than I.
Which company is that... Mednax? Yeah, that stock is a dog.I would think there should be cause for concern when a company on Wall Street owns 40+% of “private practice” NICU jobs
Yeah I just mean if Anesthesia is any example there will be a long slow push toward the use of more NPs and the minimum number of docs needed to cover liability... not that that’s necessarily any different from anywhere else.Which company is that... Mednax? Yeah, that stock is a dog.