This might be a dumb question, but what’s the difference between the UC list vs. AL? I though there was really only one waitlistIt's highly variable. I was put on the UC list in November, AL in the spring, and finally got the A in July.
This might be a dumb question, but what’s the difference between the UC list vs. AL? I though there was really only one waitlistIt's highly variable. I was put on the UC list in November, AL in the spring, and finally got the A in July.
yeah what is UCThis might be a dumb question, but what’s the difference between the UC list vs. AL? I though there was really only one waitlist
They used to have UC which ultimately became AL in the spring, but now it's just AL starting this cycle (or last cycle).This might be a dumb question, but what’s the difference between the UC list vs. AL? I though there was really only one waitlist
Thank you!!They used to have UC which ultimately became AL in the spring, but now it's just AL starting this cycle (or last cycle).
No but if you want you can go to a different one if you email and askIs attendance necessary for the "Advising Dean's Presentation and Student Panel?"
Thank you!No but if you want you can go to a different one if you email and ask
Congrats, would you mind sharing how far out they're scheduling right now?II JUST NOW!! IS & Asian, completed mid aug
For some odd reason when I was reading this and you put "Asian," that just made me giggle. Congratulations on the II. They get over 13000 applications and to even be considered for an II means they see something they like.II JUST NOW!! IS & Asian, completed mid aug
II JUST NOW!! IS & Asian, completed mid aug
Honestly, this is so much more helpful than just putting ORM, since it seems like a lot of white applicants also consider themselves to be orm. The M stands for minority 🙄For some odd reason when I was reading this and you put "Asian," that just made me giggle. Congratulations on the II. They get over 13000 applications and to even be considered for an II means they see something they like.
Omg okay thank you for clarifying that lol. I actually didn't know if it stands for Over/Under Represented Minority or Over/Under Represented in Medicine.Honestly, this is so much more helpful than just putting ORM, since it seems like a lot of white applicants also consider themselves to be orm. The M stands for minority 🙄
Per AAMC Equity, diversity, and inclusion it's actually ____ represented in *medicine. I agree with your end point though, racially whites are close to represented population wise.Honestly, this is so much more helpful than just putting ORM, since it seems like a lot of white applicants also consider themselves to be orm. The M stands for minority
Correct, whites are represented in medicine (RM):Per AAMC Equity, diversity, and inclusion it's actually ____ represented in *medicine. I agree with your end point though, racially whites are close to represented population wise.
So then is every other race URM? I thought Asians were not counted as URM. Or is representation not JUST the percentage of medical students, but the percentage of medical students compared to the percentage of the overall population that race makes up?Correct, whites are represented in medicine (RM):
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So then is every other race URM? I thought Asians were not counted as URM. Or is representation not JUST the percentage of medical students, but the percentage of medical students compared to the percentage of the overall population that race makes up?
Race | Status | ||
Asian | 6.1 | 17.1 | Overrepresented in Medicine |
Black | 13.6 | 5.0 | Underrepresented in Medicine |
Hispanic or Latino | 18.9 | 5.8 | Underrepresented in Medicine |
Native American | 1.3 | 0.3 | Underrepresented in Medicine |
Native Hawaiian | 0.3 | 0.1 | Underrepresented in Medicine |
White | 59.3 | 56.2 | Represented in Medicine |
Feel free for anyone to chime in but my understanding is that you get into the semantics when discussing representation. It varies from one school to the next but my basic understanding is that the goal is to have practicing physicians be representative of the general population. I believe that a good example would be black men as under represented in medicine. It's been a while since I've looked at the numbers but I believe about 2% of practicing physicians are black men. Because about 6% of the population in the US identify as a black man, they are thus underrepresented in medicine.So then is every other race URM? I thought Asians were not counted as URM. Or is representation not JUST the percentage of medical students, but the percentage of medical students compared to the percentage of the overall population that race makes up?
I mentioned black men in medicine. The data are not stratified by gender as far as I could see but that is a good example.
Apologies, reply deleted.I mentioned black men in medicine. The data are not stratified by gender as far as I could see but that is a good example.
Race StatusAsian 6.1 17.1 Overrepresented in MedicineBlack 13.6 5.0 Underrepresented in MedicineHispanic or Latino 18.9 5.8 Underrepresented in MedicineNative American 1.3 0.3 Underrepresented in MedicineNative Hawaiian 0.3 0.1 Underrepresented in MedicineWhite 59.3 56.2 Represented in Medicine
No problem! I think most ppl have the same issue, since the majority of WAMC posts identify themselves as ORM. I was like, "Have white kids not discovered sdn yet?" at first.Omg okay thank you for clarifying that lol. I actually didn't know if it stands for Over/Under Represented Minority or Over/Under Represented in Medicine.
Wait I didn't fully understand what you're saying. Does this mean Asians have a harder time getting in because they need to compete with a higher stat pool and therefore need higher stats to receive a positive response?Adcoms compositions themselves are probably lopsided with ORM(more asians of specific region as example), biases shows in interviews handed out to applicants and acceptances. Schools justify these selections as higher stats and so forth.
FWait I didn't fully understand what you're saying. Does this mean Asians have a harder time getting in because they need to compete with a higher stat pool and therefore need higher stats to receive a positive response?
AAMC data says so... look at the average of asian matriculants GPA and MCAT compared to others.Wait I didn't fully understand what you're saying. Does this mean Asians have a harder time getting in because they need to compete with a higher stat pool and therefore need higher stats to receive a positive response?
Hmm... is it unfair of me to say that's not fair?AAMC data says so... look at the average of asian matriculants GPA and MCAT compared to others.
Hmm... is it unfair of me to say that's not fair?
I wouldn't expect significant movement until the AMCAS traffic days. This goes for all schools.Can anyone shed a light on whether I should start worrying about Albany? I interviewed in September, was put on the AL in October, and haven't heard a peep since.
When Albany said 90% of the class comes from the AL, does it mostly consist of people who were taken off the AL before April or after April?
Not OP but yeah 4/30 for commit to enroll is the main one. From prior year's threads it looks like there's a lot of movement the first week of May because people basically have to have their acceptances narrowed down to one. It also looks like there were some acceptances in the third and fourth week of February in years past. Hopefully that holds true this year too!what are you considering traffic days? 4/30?
bold of you to assume that this process was ever meant to be fair and equitable lmaoHmm... is it unfair of me to say that's not fair?
Unless adcom composition become equal weight from orm for a specific group/region within Asians, that specific group would continue to overwhelm Asian pool and be beneficiary in applicant interviews and acceptances and matriculations. Even though AMCAS publishes the ORM results each year, equal weight remedy is unlikely to occur in near future. Some colleges are better at this than others. People do not discuss much about adcom compositions but they eventually are decision makers in terms of interviews given out and acceptances. Keeping all else in consideration such as socio economic status, experiences, stats, and such of applicants.Wait I didn't fully understand what you're saying. Does this mean Asians have a harder time getting in because they need to compete with a higher stat pool and therefore need higher stats to receive a positive response?
M stands for medicine. Over/underrepresented in medicine.Honestly, this is so much more helpful than just putting ORM, since it seems like a lot of white applicants also consider themselves to be orm. The M stands for minority 🙄
Stats please?! I have heard silence from these guys. I’m holding onto a thread!II, OOS, complete mid July. Interview dates available for me were at the start of March!
Where do you guys get this stuff?Received II yesterday, wondering if it's even worth interviewing given that its so late in the application cycle
it's a known fact that most medical schools operate on rolling admissions. so the later in the cycle you interview, the less of a chance you have of getting accepted.Where do you guys get this stuff?
Do you think you would have a better chance of admission if you did or did not interview? Is that your question? What do you mean is it worth it? If you are interested in the program in any way shape or form then it is obviously worth it..it's a known fact that most medical schools operate on rolling admissions. so the later in the cycle you interview, the less of a chance you have of getting accepted.