Is there any Allergy/Immunology fellowship whatsapp group for 2020/2021?
Can anyone provide insight on the number of interviews that should be a comfortable number to match AI? Specifically also for a DO applicant? I know there are a lot of variables from applicant to applicant. And this year might look a bit different.
Earlier discussion in this thread was generally around 10 IVs based on most recent available data for all applicants. Personally, I am more paranoid and set a goal of around 15 based on general advice to apply/interview to more places from our in-house program directors. I am a US MD.
Can anyone provide insight on the number of interviews that should be a comfortable number to match AI? Specifically also for a DO applicant? I know there are a lot of variables from applicant to applicant. And this year might look a bit different.
Wondering if anyone received confirmation of their Columbia interview date?
I haven’t heard, when I had my phone interview they said they were aiming for end of September but thought they might run a little late into October and not to worry if you hadn’t heard back by end of September because they would be sending out invites and rejections so we would know one way or the other.Has anyone heard(invitation or rejection) from Stanford after screening phone interview.
Hope everyone's interviews are going well. Is it safe to bet that all invites are done? Did anyone ever hear from Wake Forest?
Adding Stanford (peds):
Interview invitations:
8/12 - Mayo (IM), Mayo (Peds), Vanderbilt (IM)
8/13 - Augusta University (IM)
8/14 - Wisconsin (IM)
8/17 - Colorado/National Jewish (IM)
8/18 - Northwestern (IM), Albany Medical College (Peds)
8/19 - Mayo-AZ (IM), Rush (IM), Mt. Sinai (Peds)
8/20 - Boston Children's (Peds), NIH (Peds), NIH (IM)
8/21 - Buffalo (IM), Mount Sinai (IM), Boston University (IM) , UPenn (IM), Cincinnati Children’s (IM/Peds), OSU (IM), CHM (IM), Henry Ford (IM)
8/22 - UVA (IM/Peds)
8/24 - Emory (IM/Peds), WashU St. Louis (IM), CHoP (Peds), UCSF (IM)
8/25 - Duke (IM, Peds), MGH (Peds), Thomas Jeff (IM), University of Rochester (IM)
8/26 - Colorado/National Jewish (Peds), Alabama (IM)
8/27- University of Washington (IM)
8/28 - Johns Hopkins (IM), Indiana University (IM), VA Los Angeles (IM), University of Kansas (IM), University of Iowa (IM), USC (IM) Winthrop (IM)
8/30 - VCU (IM)
8/31 - UTMB Galveston (IM), UPMC (IM), UC Irvine (IM), Stanford (IM, Peds - phone interview), Baylor (IM, Peds)
9/1 - Yale (IM, Peds), U Tennessee / UTHSC (IM), Tulane (IM), UCSD (IM), U Michigan (IM), Scripps (IM), Brigham (Peds)
9/2 - Nicklaus (Peds)
9/3 - USF (IM), Northwestern (Peds), Brigham (IM), UNC (IM).
9/4 - Kaiser LA (IM), Cleveland Clinic (IM), LSU (Peds)
9/5 - Univ of Colorado/Children’s Hospital of Colorado (IM/Peds)
9/8 - UTSW (IM)
9/10 - Northwell (peds), UC Davis (IM)
9/13 - UCLA (IM,Peds)
9/14 - NJMS (IM)
9/15 - Penn State Hershey (peds)
9/17 - Montefiore/Albert Einstein (IM)
9/17 - Rutgers NJ
9/19 - University of Iowa (IM)
9/25 - Columbia - NYP (IM)
10/5 - Stanford (peds)
Unable to offer Interview:
9/9 - Massachusetts General
9/10 - Baylor (IM)
9/14 - USF
9/16 - Rush University Medical Center
9/18 - University of Arizona
9/21 - McGaw Northwestern
9/30 - Cleveland Clinic
I heard from Stanford (IM); edited to update listAnyone else hear from Stanford? No word here.
Has anyone gotten UCSF invites for the peds track, or just IM?
I agree.Current fellow here.
I think this will be a very interesting interview cycle. Applicants are doing way more interviews than they would have traditionally done. I did 10 interviews when I applied and that was difficult. It's hard to get that kind of time off arranged as a resident and it costs quite a bit of money to book flights, hotels, and transportation. Because of that, I turned down quite a few interviews. Programs also seem to be interviewing more people per spot than they typically would. The majority of applicants we are interviewing have excellent stats. I imagine that same cohort of applicants is being interviewed by all the competitive programs (although this happens with traditional interviews as well), so I think both applicants and programs are going to be in for some real surprises come match day.
If I was applying right now, I'd probably be taking just about every invite I could get and then ranking pretty much every place (unless I absolutely hated it).
I agree.
I realized this when I had a virtual interview with a group of 10 candidates total. If they had 10 people each of their 4 dates then that's 40 people for 2 spots. In reality there are probably some dates that have more candidates and some that have less.
I expect that programs probably invited a similar number of people this year as previous years but many more people are showing up to the interviews. That would mean more total interviews per person and more total ranks. I wonder if people who have many options will rank them all.
Just from more interviews I would imagine that this year there would be less unfilled programs and more people matching. But, there'd be more people getting their 4+ ranks as opposed to the 1,2,3. All speculation and hoping that we all find great fits!
Based on what I've seen and heard, smaller programs are interviewing 15-20 or 25 (at most) for 1-2 spots. Maybe some of the bigger programs (3-4 spots) are interviewing more. I'm seeing a lot of the same people in interviews. I'm thinking it will be similar to previous years when 60% of people get there top 3 and the other 40% fall below that. If anything, I think it will favor the applicant this year.
I agree.
I realized this when I had a virtual interview with a group of 10 candidates total. If they had 10 people each of their 4 dates then that's 40 people for 2 spots. In reality there are probably some dates that have more candidates and some that have less.
I expect that programs probably invited a similar number of people this year as previous years but many more people are showing up to the interviews. That would mean more total interviews per person and more total ranks. I wonder if people who have many options will rank them all.
Just from more interviews I would imagine that this year there would be less unfilled programs and more people matching. But, there'd be more people getting their 4+ ranks as opposed to the 1,2,3. All speculation and hoping that we all find great fits!
Based on what I've seen and heard, smaller programs are interviewing 15-20 or 25 (at most) for 1-2 spots. Maybe some of the bigger programs (3-4 spots) are interviewing more. I'm seeing a lot of the same people in interviews. I'm thinking it will be similar to previous years when 60% of people get there top 3 and the other 40% fall below that. If anything, I think it will favor the applicant this year.
I second this. I personally have seen from really personalized (one candidate per day) to max 4-5 candidates. Some programs may try to capitalize and interview more, but that requires a lot more effort from the faculty, etc.
It is more advantageous to apply/interview broadly than to recruit/interview more candidates.
Thanks very much for your insight.Current fellow here.
I think this will be a very interesting interview cycle. Applicants are doing way more interviews than they would have traditionally done. I did 10 interviews when I applied and that was difficult. It's hard to get that kind of time off arranged as a resident and it costs quite a bit of money to book flights, hotels, and transportation. Because of that, I turned down quite a few interviews. Programs also seem to be interviewing more people per spot than they typically would. The majority of applicants we are interviewing have excellent stats. I imagine that same cohort of applicants is being interviewed by all the competitive programs (although this happens with traditional interviews as well), so I think both applicants and programs are going to be in for some real surprises come match day.
If I was applying right now, I'd probably be taking just about every invite I could get and then ranking pretty much every place (unless I absolutely hated it).
Registering for the NRMP, I realized something in their agreement:
“NEW Program staff are prohibited from requesting applicants reveal any information pertaining to interviews, including the number of applications sent, and/or the number of interviews offered, accepted or attended. (Section 6.2.b)”
I had more than one place ask me these questions, and I am wondering if this new rule is just not known or ignored. Is this is a common occurrence to others?
I've had a handful of programs where the interview day is just me. These have been more often 1-slot programs, and one was a 2-spotter. Doing the math, it's been about 7-16 applicants interviewed per position. A couple of interviews had simply too many people (8 total most recently), and I wasn't really able to get as many questions in for the fellow happy hour as I would've liked.
People seem to have as few as 6-8 interviews and as many as 20+ from what I've gathered, and I've overlapped with so many people. Some people I've seen 4-5 times. I would not be surprised if a couple of the mid-low tier programs didn't fill, but I also wouldn't be surprised if I dropped out of my top10 come match day given that my top10 only covers 20 spots.
Has anyone heard additional details from UC Davis?
And whatever happened to SUNY Brooklyn?
I thought that was always a rule. Nevertheless I had a few interviewers who asked me specifically where else I’d interviewed, including one who basically didn’t ask me anything else! (I was in last year’s group.)Registering for the NRMP, I realized something in their agreement:
“NEW Program staff are prohibited from requesting applicants reveal any information pertaining to interviews, including the number of applications sent, and/or the number of interviews offered, accepted or attended. (Section 6.2.b)”
I had more than one place ask me these questions, and I am wondering if this new rule is just not known or ignored. Is this is a common occurrence to others?
I also never heard from the Stanford after phone interview. I think we could email them but I also assumed it's no.This makes me super nervous. I only have 5 interviews. Stanford would be my 6th, but they never got back to me after the phone call and I'm assuming it's a no.
I also never heard from the Stanford after phone interview. I think we could email them but I also assumed it's no.
Is it faux pas to do this before rank lists are due? I would love to get some verification on my impressions of a few programs. A handful of them were verbatim what was disclosed in the last cycle's group.We should put impressions here after the match in December. I saved the ones from the forum in the past 2 cycles so I will paste mine along with those.
Does anyone know if you are at a disadvantage if your had fewer interviewers than others? I heard that faculty will vote/talk about the candidates and contribute to the ranking process. But if you only spoke with three faculties, instead of 5, will you get fewer votes and thus are at a disadvantage?
I don’t actually know what the process is, but I’ve been so anxious through this interview process and I can’t get this off my mind.
Is it faux pas to do this before rank lists are due? I would love to get some verification on my impressions of a few programs. A handful of them were verbatim what was disclosed in the last cycle's group.
Just to clarify: all of us have to submit our rank order list on 11/18 and match day will be 12/2, correct? I'm just confused about the difference in dates on nrmp between "peds specialities match" and "medical specialties match."
Sorry, lurking. A/I is considered a medical specialties match, even if it’s a primarily peds program.Just to clarify: all of us have to submit our rank order list on 11/18 and match day will be 12/2, correct? I'm just confused about the difference in dates on nrmp between "peds specialities match" and "medical specialties match."
I noticed that in 2-3 of my interviews, there were not enough slots for the candidates to interview with the PD. While I suppose it is luck of the draw, I think it definitely works against your favor if you are one of the unlucky few. It's my opinion that one person ultimately makes the list, even if there's input from multiple directions.that is my understanding!!
Also any thoughts on if you don’t interview with the program director? Not sure how to interpret this ...
Is anyone applying AI a DO that didn’t take usmle on here? Just trying to get an idea if I would have a chance applying to AI coming from a DO program with comlex only.
I’m definitely nervous. I don’t want to do outpatient peds for a year either. Definitely not doing hospitalist. AND I have to work on more research projects to stay competitive and I am not sure if I will have less chance of matching after having a gap year....Anyone else nervous about not having enough ranks to match? I definitely do not want to do a year of hospitalist or outpatient general IM.
Boston University hit me with the DECLINE
I am but conversely there are a couple programs I’d rather not rank. I’m just hoping 10 or more is enough ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Anyone else nervous about not having enough ranks to match? I definitely do not want to do a year of hospitalist or outpatient general IM.