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Akamu · 06-30-2009, 03:35 PM

I have FM 1st as well. I am curious as to what books are needed to study for rotations this year, or are there individual books/resources for each rotation? I used FA/Goljan/World for step 1, but i have no idea how to study for shelf exams, and there are no upperclassmen to ask in my program, so any advice would be appreciated greatly.

Mortal_Lessons · 08-25-2009, 05:57 PM

bump.

Any thoughts on Essentials of Medicine textbook as a primary, with Case Files and PreTest as supplements?

EMT2ER-DOC · 08-27-2009, 09:40 PM

I am about a week away from taking my FM shelf. A 4th year told me that the exam was like Step 1 without the basic science questions. I was also advised to do the Pre-Test book.

nope80 · 10-17-2009, 02:34 PM

Bump on this thread

Starting fam medicine next week and am still trying to figure out which books to buy? I haven't had internal medicine, surgery or primary care so my background isn't as strong in FM as if I did have those rotations...

fergustsi · 10-17-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EMT2ER-DOC

I am about a week away from taking my FM shelf. A 4th year told me that the exam was like Step 1 without the basic science questions. I was also advised to do the Pre-Test book.

how are you an OMS and not doing and osteo rotation. is my school the only one who mandates omt rotations in third year?

cbest · 10-17-2009, 09:38 PM

Would the ambulatory section of Step-Up to Medicine be enough to do alright on the FM shelf? I'll have completed IM prior to my FM rotation. As always, the advice is greatly appreciated!

cupcakechef · 10-23-2009, 12:14 PM

I just took my shelf today.. here's some helpful hints that my classmates passed around as well as a few pointers from me:

-Don't worry about OB/Gyn
-Case Files is useful but not all-inclusive (I personally didn't use it... too wordy... my other friend used it and he said that it really didn't reflect well on the exam at all)
-Pretest is useful: focus on the "Acute" and "Chronic" sections; the others are a "waste of time"
-Test focuses on first step in mgmt
-Cover/skim a wide variety on things; do not focus on minute details
-ATP III guidelines and other charts with multiple cut-offs are not worth memorizing
-Also... this test reminds me a little too much of Step 1.. so if you're taking it early on GREAT because at least you'll be fresh off of step.
-OH and weird DRUG SIDE EFFECTS are on there too.... not the ones that everybody knows...

clement · 10-26-2009, 12:19 PM

Bump.
So anyone else out there that didn't have IM before FP and got through Pre-Test with some tidbits of Step Up to Medicine beyond just the ambulatory section (I read ambulatory plus the first half of the non-ambulatory part of the book) do OK?
Started reading Blue Prints and Deja but I couldn't keep up, so I stuck with Pre-Test and the portion of Step Up that I've gotten through. Counting on whatever juice I squeeze out of Step 1 memory from early August.

nope80 · 10-26-2009, 05:20 PM

Is there any list of topics that we should know in and out cold?

clement · 10-26-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nope80

Is there any list of topics that we should know in and out cold?

first aid for the usme step 1 minus basic sciences section is what the word on the street is. whatevs, i may just have to eject my floating device and o2 mask on this one.

nope80 · 10-28-2009, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by clement

first aid for the usme step 1 minus basic sciences section is what the word on the street is. whatevs, i may just have to eject my floating device and o2 mask on this one.

What do other people think about this? I have never heard this before and find it hard to believe that they would put forth a test like step 1? It seems kinda random. We didn't have clinical management on step 1 like we do on shelf exams...

nope80 · 11-01-2009, 12:21 PM

Bump

taylor6902 · 11-07-2009, 01:21 AM

a

nope80 · 11-07-2009, 06:50 AM

anyone take it recently?

Mortal_Lessons · 11-08-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nope80

anyone take it recently?

Family Medicine was my first rotation and I remember feeling anxious about what to expect on the Shelf. It definitely resembled Step 1 in its broad coverage of many topics, but the questions were much more management oriented and I don't recall any nitty gritty basic science questions. I used Case Files and read about a quarter of the Essentials of Medicine textbook, and I also did Pretest the week before the shelf. Overall, I relied heavily on my Step 1 studying to do well on the shelf-I do feel the Family Med-specific texts were helpful in maintaining the knowledge I had accumulated during the first 2 years.

jsong812 · 11-17-2009, 11:48 PM

Any new recommendations on FP? I've already had IM and peds. and i finished case files for FP. I just started Swanson's and it's really hard to get through. I need to do well on the shelf (as it counts for a big chunk of our grade and most likely I won't get a clinical outstanding) so any input would be appreciated. Thanks

View Poll Results: Books Preferred for Family Medicine Shelf Exam
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06-30-2009, 03:35 PM	#51
Akamu Junior Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 17	Study resources SDN Members don't see this ad. I have FM 1st as well. I am curious as to what books are needed to study for rotations this year, or are there individual books/resources for each rotation? I used FA/Goljan/World for step 1, but i have no idea how to study for shelf exams, and there are no upperclassmen to ask in my program, so any advice would be appreciated greatly.

08-27-2009, 09:40 PM	#53
EMT2ER-DOC Why so Serious????? Status: Medical Student Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,962	I am about a week away from taking my FM shelf. A 4th year told me that the exam was like Step 1 without the basic science questions. I was also advised to do the Pre-Test book. __________________ OMS-1: Done!!! OMS-2: Done!!!! COMLEX: Passed!!! Family Medicine: Done!!! Psychiatryone!!! Geriatrics: DONE!! Radiology: Bring on the bones Caribbean Cruise Vacation Internal Medicine Surgery Peds Ob/Gyn

10-23-2009, 12:14 PM	#57
cupcakechef cupcakechef Status: Pre-Medical Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: houston, tx Posts: 3	Just Finished! I just took my shelf today.. here's some helpful hints that my classmates passed around as well as a few pointers from me: -Don't worry about OB/Gyn -Case Files is useful but not all-inclusive (I personally didn't use it... too wordy... my other friend used it and he said that it really didn't reflect well on the exam at all) -Pretest is useful: focus on the "Acute" and "Chronic" sections; the others are a "waste of time" -Test focuses on first step in mgmt -Cover/skim a wide variety on things; do not focus on minute details -ATP III guidelines and other charts with multiple cut-offs are not worth memorizing -Also... this test reminds me a little too much of Step 1.. so if you're taking it early on GREAT because at least you'll be fresh off of step. -OH and weird DRUG SIDE EFFECTS are on there too.... not the ones that everybody knows...

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08-25-2009, 05:57 PM	#52
Mortal_Lessons H.Perowne Status: Medical Student Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New England Posts: 444	bump. Any thoughts on Essentials of Medicine textbook as a primary, with Case Files and PreTest as supplements?

10-17-2009, 02:34 PM	#54
nope80 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 638	Bump on this thread Starting fam medicine next week and am still trying to figure out which books to buy? I haven't had internal medicine, surgery or primary care so my background isn't as strong in FM as if I did have those rotations...

10-17-2009, 09:38 PM	#56
cbest Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 94	Would the ambulatory section of Step-Up to Medicine be enough to do alright on the FM shelf? I'll have completed IM prior to my FM rotation. As always, the advice is greatly appreciated!

10-26-2009, 12:19 PM	#58
clement Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 414	Bump. So anyone else out there that didn't have IM before FP and got through Pre-Test with some tidbits of Step Up to Medicine beyond just the ambulatory section (I read ambulatory plus the first half of the non-ambulatory part of the book) do OK? Started reading Blue Prints and Deja but I couldn't keep up, so I stuck with Pre-Test and the portion of Step Up that I've gotten through. Counting on whatever juice I squeeze out of Step 1 memory from early August.

10-26-2009, 05:20 PM	#59
nope80 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 638	Is there any list of topics that we should know in and out cold?

11-01-2009, 12:21 PM	#62
nope80 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 638	Bump

11-07-2009, 01:21 AM	#63
taylor6902 virtvs post nvmmos Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 22	a

11-07-2009, 06:50 AM	#64
nope80 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 638	anyone take it recently?

11-17-2009, 11:48 PM	#66
jsong812 Senior Member Status: Medical Student Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 226	Any new recommendations on FP? I've already had IM and peds. and i finished case files for FP. I just started Swanson's and it's really hard to get through. I need to do well on the shelf (as it counts for a big chunk of our grade and most likely I won't get a clinical outstanding) so any input would be appreciated. Thanks